Film News – James Mangold Explains His Comments That Vilified Post-Credits Scenes

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Andrew Turner

Andrew Turner

Freelance Writer. History Graduate from the University of Southampton. Reviews Films, TV and Video Games and you can also find the reviews I publish here on my personal blog theturnertalks.com.

Post-credits scenes seem to be the norm these days. Indeed, nearly every superhero film that comes out will have one. Marvel should take some responsibility for setting this trend. I am not against post-credits scenes but not everyone feels the same way. In fact, James Mangold, director of Logan, pretty much despises them. During the 2018 Writers Guild Association Beyond Words Panel in Los Angeles, he went on a rant about them.

Original Comments

Via Cinemablend, this is what James Mangold originally said in full:

The idea of making a movie that would fucking embarrass me, that’s part of the anesthetizing of this country or the world. That’s further confirming what they already know and tying in with other fucking products and selling them the next movie while you’re making this movie, and kind of all that shit that I find really fucking embarrassing. Like, that audiences are actually asking for scenes in end credits when those scenes were first developed for movies that suck, so they put something extra at the end to pick up the scores when the movie couldn’t end right on its own fucking feet”.

Now we’ve actually gotten audiences addicted to a fucking bonus in the credits. It’s fucking embarrassing. It means you couldn’t land your fucking movie is what it means. Even if you got 100,000 Twitter addicts who are gambling on what fucking scene is going to happen after the fucking credits it’s still cheating. It’s just cheating, but there’s all sorts of bad habits like that that fucking horrify me, man, that have become de rigueur in the way we make movies and I think the fear of being one of them that did that end then everyone’s patting me on the back and I feel like shit inside because I know I cheated, is probably the greatest thing that scares the shit out of me”.

Patrick Stewart as Professer X and Hugh Jackman as Logan/Wolverine in Logan

James Mangold Explains His Comments

On Twitter, James Mangold went on to clarify those original comments:

Many folks commented on my diatribe re: end credits scenes. Good points made by some who disagree. My vehemence comes from a belief these scenes r cinematic MSG/crack. Of course, they feel good. They are designed to do that, like ads, as they hook you to buy the next film and at the same time, I feel like the omnipresent expectation of them cheapens the integrity of a theatrical experience as the movie doesn’t stick its ending but rather dribbles to an end with a series of pleasing vignettes/ads for the thing they will sell you next year”.

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So it’s not so much the scenes I despise as much as I fear that movies (an art form I deeply love) are not advanced when they are no longer functioning as a form with a beginning middle and end but rather as part of a serialized money machine. These scenes promote a slightly false sense of fully realized ‘universe’ as if everyone behind scenes knows exactly what’s next in a saga, when the truth is a bit less charted despite what many tell a sycophantic press that makes $ on the ‘universes’ & the gossip mill they create”.

James Mangold and Hugh Jackman

My View on This Situation

From an artistic perspective, I can completely sympathise with James Mangold when it comes to his beliefs on this issue. However, when I think of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), which is the franchise that seemingly uses post-credits scenes more than any other, the films within it are not standalone films.

They are chapters/instalments in a larger story. That goes for all franchises. Hence, if post-credits scenes are used in the films of these massive franchises, then I have no problem with it because it makes sense from a storytelling perspective. It provides continuity and links the films together.

Thank you for reading this article! You can find my other articles here on Soapbox as well as my reviews which you can also find at my blog theturnertalks.com.

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